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Post by johnnypeppers on Feb 16, 2010 9:03:23 GMT -5
Her, Reid and Boney Frank....perfect together. I also understand her family has a business in America Samoa and are exempted from minimum wage requirements supported by...you guessed it...pop up Polise
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Post by vincegatto on Feb 16, 2010 12:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by auduboneast on Feb 16, 2010 13:08:34 GMT -5
Vince, I find it rather funny that you can dispute the little statement put up by JP but can't dispute the many FACTS put up by Tyler.
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Post by vincegatto on Feb 16, 2010 13:46:33 GMT -5
Vince, I find it rather funny that you can dispute the little statement put up by JP but can't dispute the many FACTS put up by Tyler. I don't know that any of the figures Tyler put up are facts. I do know that illegal immigration, particularly in California and the Southwest is a serious problem. That, I will not dispute. Now, if you want to volunteer to stand at the border and keep illegal aliens out, you have my blessing. Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. If you have a solution, I will be happy to listen. I have never heard Nancy Pelosi ever make a statement that she wants to allow illegal aliens to vote, and that's a fact.
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Post by johnnypeppers on Feb 16, 2010 15:57:03 GMT -5
I may have used the wrong verbiage as to "owning" a business but does not her husband have a position in the tuna business in A.S.? Are the wages $4.42 to $4.92 for unloading fish or $3.76 to $4.26 for fish related industries in A.S.? Your #3 posting makes no sense
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Post by Pasta on Feb 16, 2010 16:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by vincegatto on Feb 16, 2010 16:54:24 GMT -5
I may have used the wrong verbiage as to "owning" a business but does not her husband have a position in the tuna business in A.S.? Are the wages $4.42 to $4.92 for unloading fish or $3.76 to $4.26 for fish related industries in A.S.? Your #3 posting makes no sense Work on your verbiage gain. "have a position", could mean have partial ownership in an entity or be employed by an entity, for example as a manager. Do you think he has an ownership position in a business or holds a position as an employee? Nonetheless, Pelosi's husband's position in a tuna fish cannery in Somoa has little to do with day to day life it Audubon, if he even has such a "position" and works for minimum wage -- who cares. Reagarding # 3 if it costs $4.42 to unload fish in Samoa and $0.60 an hour to unload fish in Bangcock - where do you think the fish are going to be unloaded?
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Post by johnnypeppers on Feb 16, 2010 19:12:23 GMT -5
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Post by stevemcgarrett on Feb 17, 2010 8:05:05 GMT -5
I always check out this site when the 'political spin masters' start their inaccurate e-mails. I find it interesting from a psychological perspective what people will believe either because: A. They desperately want to. B. They have an agenda. C. They just don't bother to find out the truth. Funny thing is, even when presented with facts there will be those that still insist the opposite is true. Come one, isn't there enough out there that is TRUE to pillory Nancy Pelosi on without spreading dubiuos e-mail messages designed as either propoganda pieces or as a marketing e-mail address collection effort?
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Post by vincegatto on Feb 17, 2010 8:56:03 GMT -5
I always check out this site when the 'political spin masters' start their inaccurate e-mails. I find it interesting from a psychological perspective what people will believe either because: A. They desperately want to. B. They have an agenda. C. They just don't bother to find out the truth. Funny thing is, even when presented with facts there will be those that still insist the opposite is true. Come one, isn't there enough out there that is TRUE to pillory Nancy Pelosi on without spreading dubiuos e-mail messages designed as either propoganda pieces or as a marketing e-mail address collection effort? This is a new political movement of ignoramuses motivated by rhetoric and attack. They are perfectly satisfied to be lead by other ignoramuses who can do nothing more than shoot off their mouths. Truth and facts have no place in their world. Glenn Beck ------------------------------------ Sara Palin
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Post by vincegatto on Feb 17, 2010 12:18:20 GMT -5
teapartypatriots.ning.com/Tea Party Patriots Mission Statement and Core Values Mission Statement The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets. Core Values • Fiscal Responsibility • Constitutionally Limited Government • Free Markets Fiscal Responsibility: Fiscal Responsibility by government honors and respects the freedom of the individual to spend the money that is the fruit of their own labor. A constitutionally limited government, designed to protect the blessings of liberty, must be fiscally responsible or it must subject it's citizenry to high levels of taxation that unjustly restrict the liberty our Constitution was designed to protect. Such runaway deficit spending as we now see in Washington D.C. compels us to take action as the increasing national debt is a grave threat to our national sovereignty and the personal and economic liberty of future generations. Constitutionally Limited Government: We, the members of The Tea Party Patriots, are inspired by our founding documents and regard the Constitution of the United States to be the supreme law of the land. We believe that it is possible to know the original intent of the government our founders set forth, and stand in support of that intent. Like the founders, we support states' rights for those powers not expressly stated in the Constitution. As the government is of the people, by the people and for the people, in all other matters we support the personal liberty of the individual, within the rule of law. Free Markets: A free market is the economic consequence of personal liberty. The founders believed that personal and economic freedom were indivisible, as do we. Our current government's interference distorts the free market and inhibits the pursuit of individual and economic liberty. Therefore, we support a return to the free market principles on which this nation was founded and oppose government intervention into the operations of private business. Our Philosophy Tea Party Patriots as an organization believes in the Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government, and Free Markets. Tea Party Patriots, Inc. is a non-partisan grassroots organization of individuals united by our core values derived from the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill Of Rights as explained in the Federalist Papers. We recognize and support the strength of grassroots organization powered by activism and civic responsibility at a local level. We hold that the United States is a republic conceived by its architects as a nation whose people were granted "unalienable rights" by our Creator. Chiefly among these are the rights to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." The Tea Party Patriots stand with our founders, as heirs to the republic, to claim our rights and duties which preserve their legacy and our own. We hold, as did the founders, that there exists an inherent benefit to our country when private property and prosperity are secured by natural law and the rights of the individual. There are good points here that many would agree with and I don't know that the Tea Party is opposed to Democratic legislators because they are non- partisan. Here is the problem as I see it. Palin is outright dumb. She lacks education. intellect and intelligence. I doubt that she understands anything of substance in the Tea Parties positions to the point of not being able to speak there without writing grade school "crib notes" on the palm of her hand. Beck, on the other hand, is very intelligent has risen high in his chosen field of radio and makes a lot of money. However, he is a performer and panders to a less intellectual audience of malcontents, that buy into all the BS he makes up and dishes out. In the old days we would call him a "rabble rouser".
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Post by vincegatto on Feb 17, 2010 17:51:41 GMT -5
I agree that Palin is an idiot but I wouldn't say anything about crib notes. Our own President can't give a speech with out reading it directly off a teleprompter. When the screen goes blank he stumbles on his words. He probably learned to rely on the prompter from Bush who used to wing it and we all be like WTF is he talking about. I'm trying to think of something nice to say about Sara Palin and I will tell you she is very pretty. In fact, she is a former beauty queen. Of course that's really not all that big an accomplishment in Alaska where she was competing with female lumberjacks and lady oil field roustabouts.
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