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Post by ForeverThere on Mar 2, 2010 23:26:51 GMT -5
John!
Get out those plans, dust them off, update them and send them to the new Governor!
A short cover note ~ loyalty to New Jersey State, experience and leaving . . . might catch his attention!
Jersey is losing residents ~ they need to keep them and simultaneously saving money in every way possible. You have nothing to gain now ~ you may be listened to!!!!
Good luck!
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Post by johnnypeppers on Mar 3, 2010 9:20:20 GMT -5
If only I can find them
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Post by vincegatto on Mar 3, 2010 9:25:46 GMT -5
You had posted them on the old board. Of course, they and everything else posted over the last 7 years was lost when you know who deleted the forum.
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Post by johnnypeppers on Mar 3, 2010 13:53:32 GMT -5
I have feelers out now for the statistical information I used in putting the plan together. If my contacts respond I will try to put a package together and we will see what type of response, if any, from the powers...County and State. I will post the entire plan on this site when and IF it is completed and also any responses received.
John
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Post by johnnypeppers on Mar 3, 2010 17:32:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know or recall the population of Audubon (say 2007-8-9)...I mean permanent residence. I seem to recall the ratio as to Patrol Officers, supervisors etc...but I will wait for the stats. I also believe the apartment dwellers were a guess as to occupancy ratio...you know...one renter..three families which would be a guess as to patrol/population ratio. But, as I recall...a reported crime ratio has a bearing as to Patrol /manpower/supervisor coverage. I found some notes but not substance.
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Post by vincegatto on Mar 6, 2010 8:59:22 GMT -5
It appears that there are job openings coming up for about 10 laid off police officers, but nobody is applying. I guess the APD layoffs have become a non-issue and that the Haddon Twp./AP police deal seems to be working out OK. A new PD is being formed in Camden County: "...The borough offered to rehire officers who were laid off in June 2006 when Woodlynne entered the police-sharing agreement and disbanded its own police force. None has responded, Fuentes said.
So far, Woodlynne has interviewed only one candidate -- one of three police officers from Camden County recently laid off..."www.courierpostonline.com/article/20100306/NEWS01/3060354Are jobs out there for cops going begging? No cops looking for work? Ought to shut down complaints in this thread.
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Post by daddydog on Mar 6, 2010 12:23:08 GMT -5
Are jobs out there for cops going begging? No cops looking for work? Ought to shut down complaints in this thread. Did it ever occur to you Vince that men and women recently laid off might not want to take the chance and accept a job with a complete and utter tenuous situation in Woodlynne? This guy running the town is an idiot, why would they want to take the chance of losing a more viable position with a proven and established PD? You really are a douche bag.
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Post by vincegatto on Mar 6, 2010 13:00:05 GMT -5
Are jobs out there for cops going begging? No cops looking for work? Ought to shut down complaints in this thread. Did it ever occur to you Vince that men and women recently laid off might not want to take the chance and accept a job with a complete and utter tenuous situation in Woodlynne? This guy running the town is an idiot, why would they want to take the chance of losing a more viable position with a proven and established PD? You really are a douche bag. You sound like the kind of person that Unemployment Compensation was made for. You think someone ought to sit on his lazy -@ss- collecting $600 a week until the perfect job comes looking for him. There are job opening for professional Police Officers in Woodlynne with benefits and a pension-- cops are being laid off elsewhere, State aid to towns is being cut back and there is 10% unemployment. Nobody is locked into working for Woodlynne for the rest of their life and nobody has elected Mayor Fuentes to the position of Mayor forever. The only douche bag around here is one making excuses not to work, stop complaining. There are job openings for laid off APD members.
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Post by daddydog on Mar 6, 2010 13:02:45 GMT -5
Did it ever occur to you Vince that men and women recently laid off might not want to take the chance and accept a job with a complete and utter tenuous situation in Woodlynne? This guy running the town is an idiot, why would they want to take the chance of losing a more viable position with a proven and established PD? You really are a douche bag. You sound like the kind of person that Unemployment Compensation was made for. You think someone ought to sit on his lazy -@ss- collecting $600 a week until the perfect job comes looking for him. There are job opening for professional Police Officers in Woodlynne with benefits and a pension-- cops are being laid off elsewhere, State aid to towns is being cut back and there is 10% unemployment. Nobody is locked into working for Woodlynne for the rest of their life and nobody has elected Mayor Fuentes to the position of Mayor forever. The only douche bag around here is one making excuses not to work. You know a thing or two about sitting on your @ss all day not working, don't ya! ;D ;D
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Post by johnnypeppers on Mar 6, 2010 18:09:39 GMT -5
As to Job openings, most of the Officers that were let go had accumaled time and grade wages. You cannot execpt a Union Officer, or for that matter any Union member to start at an entrance wage. My guess is Woodlyn is lowballing and that is why no response..and who would want to work there anyway
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Post by vincegatto on Mar 6, 2010 18:40:19 GMT -5
As to Job openings, most of the Officers that were let go had accumaled time and grade wages. You cannot execpt a Union Officer, or for that matter any Union member to start at an entrance wage. My guess is Woodlyn is lowballing and that is why no response..and who would want to work there anyway You are correct, according to the article, Woodlynne is lowballing (starting pay 32K per year) and who would want to work in Woodlynne anyway. However, the issue is do they want to work or not. Plenty of people have to start over at the bottom when they get a new job. If the Union has rules about accumulated time and wages, let the Union get them a job.
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Post by Pasta on Mar 6, 2010 18:59:31 GMT -5
As to Job openings, most of the Officers that were let go had accumaled time and grade wages. You cannot execpt a Union Officer, or for that matter any Union member to start at an entrance wage. My guess is Woodlyn is lowballing and that is why no response..and who would want to work there anyway You are correct, according to the article, Woodlynne is lowballing (starting pay 32K per year) and who would want to work in Woodlynne anyway. However, the issue is do they want to work or not. Plenty of people have to start over at the bottom when they get a new job. If the Union has rules about accumulated time and wages, let the Union get them a job. Actually, I know someone who recently started in another department for about that salary, so I am not so sure that for a starting wage that is really all that low. The person I know was thankful to find work anywhere, he said it is tough in law enforcement these days; and that no matter how much they might start out, they start in the pension system too. I think they could always transfer to another department later, couldn't they?
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Post by johnnypeppers on Mar 6, 2010 19:48:48 GMT -5
As to Job openings, most of the Officers that were let go had accumaled time and grade wages. You cannot execpt a Union Officer, or for that matter any Union member to start at an entrance wage. My guess is Woodlyn is lowballing and that is why no response..and who would want to work there anyway You are correct, according to the article, Woodlynne is lowballing (starting pay 32K per year) and who would want to work in Woodlynne anyway. However, the issue is do they want to work or not. Plenty of people have to start over at the bottom when they get a new job. If the Union has rules about accumulated time and wages, let the Union get them a job. Don't you believe the FOP or PBA would forward any info to Officers who were out of work? As to Pastas post...you never go back. If an Officer, and a GOOD productive Proactive Officer does their job, they will certainly look for an opening that is consummate with their last tier wages. To accept anything less is , in my opinion, just someone looking for a steady income and not utilizing their potential or skills. I have met many of that type in my time on the street . No disrespect to your friend Pasta, but he/she should look at the whole picture and to lower oneself professionally...well..I wouldn't do it but...hay...apples and oranges. John
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Post by vincegatto on Mar 6, 2010 19:57:32 GMT -5
You are correct, according to the article, Woodlynne is lowballing (starting pay 32K per year) and who would want to work in Woodlynne anyway. However, the issue is do they want to work or not. Plenty of people have to start over at the bottom when they get a new job. If the Union has rules about accumulated time and wages, let the Union get them a job. Don't you believe the FOP or PBA would forward any info to Officers who were out of work? As to Pastas post...you never go back. If an Officer, and a GOOD productive Proactive Officer does their job, they will certainly look for an opening that is consummate with their last tier wages. To accept anything less is , in my opinion, just someone looking for a steady income and not utilizing their potential or skills. I have met many of that type in my time on the street . No disrespect to your friend Pasta, but he/she should look at the whole picture and to lower oneself professionally...well..I wouldn't do it but...hay...apples and oranges. John So you feel it is better not to work than to lower yourself to work at a job below your potential. Good thing you are retired Peppers, there is a near depression and people are lucky to be working at all. Welcome to the 21st Century.
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Post by johnnypeppers on Mar 6, 2010 20:25:58 GMT -5
Don't you believe the FOP or PBA would forward any info to Officers who were out of work? As to Pastas post...you never go back. If an Officer, and a GOOD productive Proactive Officer does their job, they will certainly look for an opening that is consummate with their last tier wages. To accept anything less is , in my opinion, just someone looking for a steady income and not utilizing their potential or skills. I have met many of that type in my time on the street . No disrespect to your friend Pasta, but he/she should look at the whole picture and to lower oneself professionally...well..I wouldn't do it but...hay...apples and oranges. John So you feel it is better not to work than to lower yourself to work at a job below your potential. Good thing you are retired Peppers, there is a near depression and people are lucky to be working at all. Welcome to the 21st Century. No..I would never suggest that someone would "lower themselves" to work below their potential....would you or would YOU ...I think not. Life is choices, and that person has to make those choices that are relevant to their personal situations. It's a choice...good or bad. Now, it's 8:30 so I'm gonna take a shower and nighty nite...ahhh...life is good. John
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