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Vince
Jan 24, 2010 13:29:26 GMT -5
Post by vincegatto on Jan 24, 2010 13:29:26 GMT -5
The Retrospect article is what I heard of the incident. I was concerned because I heard on the board that maybe this was a "gang initiation," thing. I asked the cop I know if they knew anything about this gang stuff, and they told me that there is absolutely no truth to that at all. The cop told me that gang stuff information is completely false. The cop could not tell me too much more since it involved a juvenile. The cop told me that rumors like that start all the time, and not to believe the rumors. This post seems to back up what the cop told me. Well pasta my boy he wasn't very candid with you, because they want it to go away. If you feel safe with that answer fine with me. Well, DFC I don't depend on you or Pasta for information. I only believe and post what I can document. I can't document the "gang initiation" from the Retro story and I believe they get their info directly off the APD day sheets. If you have any way to prove that the stabbing was the result of a "gang initiation" please post your evidence. "I heard it from a cop" does not cut it with me whether it comes from you or Pasta, though I am more inclined to believe what Pasta says than the crap you dish out around here. (I hope everyone knows that there is a recurrent "urban legend" that states that a gang member is going to this or that store and stab or shoot some Innocent customer as a gang initiation - this is one of those e-mails you get that tells you to stay aways from a particular store or mall)www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/macon.asp
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Vince
Jan 24, 2010 14:19:20 GMT -5
Post by Pasta on Jan 24, 2010 14:19:20 GMT -5
Well pasta my boy he wasn't very candid with you, because they want it to go away. If you feel safe with that answer fine with me. Well, DFC I don't depend on you or Pasta for information. I only believe and post what I can document. I can't document the "gang initiation" from the Retro story and I believe they get their info directly off the APD day sheets. If you have any way to prove that the stabbing was the result of a "gang initiation" please post your evidence. "I heard it from a cop" does not cut it with me whether it comes from you or Pasta, though I am more inclined to believe what Pasta says than the crap you dish out around here. (I hope everyone knows that there is a recurrent "urban legend" that states that a gang member is going to this or that store and stab some Innocent customer as a gang initiation - this is one of those e-mails you get that tells you to stay aways from a particular store or mall)Sorry I don't have access to APD's day sheets, or any documents or "proof in writing," that I can post one way or the other. Most people don't. All I did was ask a question about it, and then posted the answer.
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Vince
Jan 24, 2010 14:53:44 GMT -5
Post by vincegatto on Jan 24, 2010 14:53:44 GMT -5
Well, DFC I don't depend on you or Pasta for information. I only believe and post what I can document. I can't document the "gang initiation" from the Retro story and I believe they get their info directly off the APD day sheets. If you have any way to prove that the stabbing was the result of a "gang initiation" please post your evidence. "I heard it from a cop" does not cut it with me whether it comes from you or Pasta, though I am more inclined to believe what Pasta says than the crap you dish out around here. (I hope everyone knows that there is a recurrent "urban legend" that states that a gang member is going to this or that store and stab some Innocent customer as a gang initiation - this is one of those e-mails you get that tells you to stay aways from a particular store or mall)Sorry I don't have access to APD's day sheets, or any documents or "proof in writing," that I can post one way or the other. Most people don't. All I did was ask a question about it, and then posted the answer. That's OK. We should not be discussing a "gang initiation" that nobody can prove was part of this incident and at best is hearsay or a rumor. However, if it later comes out publicly or DFC can document his claim, we will owe him an apology for not believing him.
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Vince
Jan 24, 2010 16:22:50 GMT -5
Post by dfc on Jan 24, 2010 16:22:50 GMT -5
Well pasta my boy he wasn't very candid with you, because they want it to go away. If you feel safe with that answer fine with me. Well, DFC I don't depend on you or Pasta for information. I only believe and post what I can document. I can't document the "gang initiation" from the Retro story and I believe they get their info directly off the APD day sheets. If you have any way to prove that the stabbing was the result of a "gang initiation" please post your evidence. "I heard it from a cop" does not cut it with me whether it comes from you or Pasta, though I am more inclined to believe what Pasta says than the crap you dish out around here. (I hope everyone knows that there is a recurrent "urban legend" that states that a gang member is going to this or that store and stab or shoot some Innocent customer as a gang initiation - this is one of those e-mails you get that tells you to stay aways from a particular store or mall)www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/macon.asp Like I said if you feel safe fine. Naturally I am not going to reveal my source to satisfy you.
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Vince
Jan 24, 2010 17:45:02 GMT -5
Post by vincegatto on Jan 24, 2010 17:45:02 GMT -5
Well, DFC I don't depend on you or Pasta for information. I only believe and post what I can document. I can't document the "gang initiation" from the Retro story and I believe they get their info directly off the APD day sheets. If you have any way to prove that the stabbing was the result of a "gang initiation" please post your evidence. "I heard it from a cop" does not cut it with me whether it comes from you or Pasta, though I am more inclined to believe what Pasta says than the crap you dish out around here. (I hope everyone knows that there is a recurrent "urban legend" that states that a gang member is going to this or that store and stab or shoot some Innocent customer as a gang initiation - this is one of those e-mails you get that tells you to stay aways from a particular store or mall)www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/macon.asp Like I said if you feel safe fine. Naturally I am not going to reveal my source to satisfy you. I guess that if you wanted to justify why nobody but you has heard that this was a "gang initiation" or been able to demonstrate any proof, you could say that they (whoever they are) are trying to cover it up. Everyone loves a conspiracy.
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Vince
Jan 24, 2010 20:42:35 GMT -5
Post by theincrowd on Jan 24, 2010 20:42:35 GMT -5
How about the Supt of Schools hiring a relative for a fulltime teachers position? How about the Boro that has no money hiring a labor lawyer? And for what? Now beat that d1ckhead? You are trumped, our Superintendent did a great job in leading our schools to success in the No Child Left behind Program and that's a fact, check it out: www.audubonuncensored.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=shittalk&action=display&thread=106&page=2#664Nepotism in the school system. Is there a policy against that? What's your issue, what's your problem. Where are your facts - show us the link to the info. Oh, I forgot, you heard it on the street, big secret. There is no issue and no problem, you are just trying to tarnish someone's reputation, typical of the worthless crap you post here. Hey Vince, everyone knows that DFC couldn't scoop "Kitty litter"!!.. Has he ever scooped anything of significance?. If he has done so in the past it's been quite a long time ago. My recollection is he used to carry Mr.. A's waterbucket. DFC do us all a favor and how about a few morsals of information to go on would you big guy?. Pick on me or someone else because your facination with Don is bordering obsession.
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Vince
Jan 24, 2010 20:58:08 GMT -5
Post by theincrowd on Jan 24, 2010 20:58:08 GMT -5
Well, DFC I don't depend on you or Pasta for information. I only believe and post what I can document. I can't document the "gang initiation" from the Retro story and I believe they get their info directly off the APD day sheets. If you have any way to prove that the stabbing was the result of a "gang initiation" please post your evidence. "I heard it from a cop" does not cut it with me whether it comes from you or Pasta, though I am more inclined to believe what Pasta says than the crap you dish out around here. (I hope everyone knows that there is a recurrent "urban legend" that states that a gang member is going to this or that store and stab some Innocent customer as a gang initiation - this is one of those e-mails you get that tells you to stay aways from a particular store or mall)Sorry I don't have access to APD's day sheets, or any documents or "proof in writing," that I can post one way or the other. Most people don't. All I did was ask a question about it, and then posted the answer. Pasta, I corroberated your post. Indeed it was a random act by a mentally unstable juvenile. There was no gang issue and it was merely a random act. There isn't anything else to it. Confirmed by multiple sources.
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Vince
Jan 25, 2010 4:38:18 GMT -5
Post by dfc on Jan 25, 2010 4:38:18 GMT -5
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Jan 25, 2010 9:02:53 GMT -5
Post by vincegatto on Jan 25, 2010 9:02:53 GMT -5
Well look who has come out of the woodwork Fire Marshal Bill I expected a longer reply with all your fancy dialog. You haven't changed still love to hear yourself talk. Hey did you get a Gold Badge with the Moderator Title??? ;D This is very strange, DFC. Every time that someone makes a negative comment about you, you accuse them of being a fireman. Do you think that everyone who posts on this board is a fireman from another department out to get you? I don't know who The In Crowd is, but it appears that you are afraid of someone you call "Fire Marshall Bill" (the big talker with the gold badge)Did you want a gold badge too? The paranoia continues......... and just look at your Karma, a negative 60 - everyone on the board must be "smiting" you.
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Vince
Jan 25, 2010 10:38:30 GMT -5
Post by theincrowd on Jan 25, 2010 10:38:30 GMT -5
Well look who has come out of the woodwork Fire Marshal Bill I expected a longer reply with all your fancy dialog. You haven't changed still love to hear yourself talk. Hey did you get a Gold Badge with the Moderator Title??? ;D All I ask is spread it around a little. Save some for the rest of us and give Don a break. ;D. Hang in there big guy...
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Vince
Jan 25, 2010 10:57:16 GMT -5
Post by Pasta on Jan 25, 2010 10:57:16 GMT -5
Well look who has come out of the woodwork Fire Marshal Bill I expected a longer reply with all your fancy dialog. You haven't changed still love to hear yourself talk. Hey did you get a Gold Badge with the Moderator Title??? ;D All I ask is spread it around a little. Save some for the rest of us and give Don a break. ;D. Hang in there big guy... Theincrowd; Dfc has spread it around to most everybody on this board, but I admit, it really looks like you summed it up well. It does look like he has an almost obsession with Mr. Gatto.
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Vince
Jan 25, 2010 12:15:25 GMT -5
Post by billmelater on Jan 25, 2010 12:15:25 GMT -5
all correction officers are civilians, most of the privatized CO are CO who were paid by the state. There is no problem going privatizes. They will hire the best of the state Co. It's not that hard to look over a prisoner, you just don't have to portray yourself has weak and you should do good. A state run and privatized prisoner has no difference. CO's are not civilians, any more than a police officer. There's more to it than that. They have arrest powers and are permitted to carry weapons off duty.
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Jan 25, 2010 12:30:32 GMT -5
Post by vincegatto on Jan 25, 2010 12:30:32 GMT -5
All I ask is spread it around a little. Save some for the rest of us and give Don a break. ;D. Hang in there big guy... Theincrowd; Dfc has spread it around to most everybody on this board, but I admit, it really looks like you summed it up well. It does look like he has an almost obsession with Mr. Gatto. I'm still waiting for him to accuse me of being a fireman. This guy is full of obsessions and some people never grow up.
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Jan 25, 2010 12:48:45 GMT -5
Post by dfc on Jan 25, 2010 12:48:45 GMT -5
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Jan 25, 2010 12:51:25 GMT -5
Post by Pasta on Jan 25, 2010 12:51:25 GMT -5
all correction officers are civilians, most of the privatized CO are CO who were paid by the state. There is no problem going privatizes. They will hire the best of the state Co. It's not that hard to look over a prisoner, you just don't have to portray yourself has weak and you should do good. A state run and privatized prisoner has no difference. CO's are not civilians, any more than a police officer. There's more to it than that. They have arrest powers and are permitted to carry weapons off duty. Yes, as far as a I know, billmelater is correct. COs are not civilians; and from what has been posted, their training is intensive which must meet state standards for certification. They also have to remain educated through in-service programs which keep them up to date on the latest laws and court rulings to do their job. In other words, they are professionals, not just hourly employees. I am not even sure whether civilian employees would be able to get their training, anyway without being actual "law enforcement" officers.
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